300,000 to 500,000 people marched in Chicago to protest The Border Protection, Antiterrorism, and Illegal Immigration Control Act of 2005.
The Police estimated 300,000 according to Channel 2 News Chicago. Which means there were at least 400,000 to 500,000 people.

http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/local_story_069125525.html

I live in Chicago. I didn't know anything about it until I heard about the march on the news. It was a march apparently organized by word of mouth and internally in various communities. Yet I live in Uptown which claims to be the most diverse community in Chicago. Maybe I'm out of it.  I didn't see anything in the papers about an upcoming march.   It got a few minutes of coverage on TV. 300,000 to 500,000 people gets a few minutes of coverage in Chicago, I can't imagine what the coverage was in the rest of the country.

Here's the on line link to the Chicago Tribune. If you look very carefully you will find a single link called "immigrant march"

http://www.chicagotribune.com/

The Saturday Chicago Tribune did show a front page picture of the crowd with a headline and then a not very detailed article. Seems like they don't really know much about it either. Their estimate was 100.000 people. Amazing how they low-balled the police estimate which low balls the organizers estimates as a rule. If the police say there were 300.000 people then that is AT LEAST how many people were there. Minor on line Coverage from the Chicago Suntimes

http://www.suntimes.com/index/

But it doesn't matter because all the awful politicians in Chicago were there to support the crowd. They had to. That's 300,000 to 1/2 million votes ( if everybody there were all to be registered) they could lose. Even Mayor Daley who has installed TV cameras on many city corners and hopes to have the entire city monitored electronically ala Big Brother and who did not endorse John Kerry for president was there.

There is nothing that scares a government more than to see 300 to 500 thousand people in the street...protesting.

And they were protesting against Bush too. They were protesting about a bill sponsored by Jim Sensenbrenner that seeks mass deportations of Illegal immigrants, sending illegal  workers to jail and making it a crime to have aided an illegal immigrant.

Well, here's a bit of satire I almost forgot about that a group of us did about 2 and 1/2 years ago and I think it was way ahead of it's time. All the commentary and jokes seem much more familiar today than then.
Written by Warren Leming

http://www.burningbush.tv/images/bushwav.mp3

This is a mainstream news report on the use of AC 130 Gun ships being sent to Iraq followed with a quick translation in common sense English.

AN AIR BASE IN IRAQ - The U.S. Air Force has begun moving heavily armed AC-130 airplanes -- the lethal "flying gunships" of the Vietnam War -- to a base in Iraq as commanders search for new tools to counter the Iraqi resistance, The Associated Press has learned.

Translation: The C130 will be used for impact on civil war, civil disturbance where large groups of people are gathered. It could aslo be used as air power to replace a small number of ground troops who will be sent back to the U.S. for show before the November elections. The C130 may come in handy for the proposed air war against Iran.

Ray McGovern unlike Larry Johnson has denounced the CIA, an agency he once worked for. He does not want to be associated with torture. Larry Johnson on the other hand has stated recently on this website that mild sleep deprivation of detainees held without charge should be considered acceptable. Johnson states that the abuse of detainees is unacceptable but apparently does not consider "mild" sleep deprivation of a person held in confinement without charges, torture. It is hard for me to imagine how any form of sleep deprivation could not be considered torture.

So when we listen to ex-employees of the CIA, DIA, FBI, and other so-called "intelligence" services on this site or on the Mainstream News,  be aware that their are other ex-employees like Ray McGovern, Phillip Agee (now living in Cuba) and John Stockwell who have a vastly different perspective on agencies like these who, in my opinion are comprised of incompetent men and women who are completely misguided and thoroughly perverse in their attitudes, motivations, beliefs and actions.

I Do Not Wish to Be Associated With Torture
by Ray McGovern
Note: Ray McGovern and 15 others took action Thursday in the halls of Congress. The 16 donned orange jumpsuits similar to those worn by detainees at Guantánamo Bay. They wore gags over their mouths decorated with one word - torture. Not another word needed to be said as they walked the halls of Congress. McGovern, a 27-year veteran of the CIA, also returned his Intelligence Commendation Award medallion, which was given to him for "especially commendable service." He delivered the medal to Congressman Pete Hoekstra along with the letter below.

Hon. Pete Hoekstra, Chair
House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence
Washington, D.C.

Dear Congressman Hoekstra:

As a matter of conscience, I am returning the Intelligence Commendation Award medallion given me for "especially commendable service" during my 27-year career in CIA. The issue is torture, which inhabits the same category as rape and slavery - intrinsically evil. I do not wish to be associated, however remotely, with an agency engaged in torture.

Reports in recent years that CIA personnel were torturing detainees were highly disturbing. Confirmation of a sort came last fall, when CIA Director Porter Goss and Dick Cheney - dubbed by the Washington Post "Vice President for Torture" - descended on Sen. John McCain to demand that the CIA be exempted from his amendment's ban on torture. Subsequent reports implicated agency personnel in several cases of prisoner abuse in Iraq, including a few in which detainees died during interrogation.

The obeisance of CIA directors George Tenet and Porter Goss in heeding illegal White House directives has done irreparable harm to the CIA and the country - not to mention those tortured and killed. That you, as Chair of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, show more deference to the White House than dedication to your oversight responsibilities under the Constitution is another profound disappointment. How can you and your counterpart, Sen. Pat Roberts, turn a blind eye to torture - letting some people get away, literally, with murder - and square that with your conscience?

If German officials who were ordered to do such things in the 1930s had spoken out early and loudly enough, the German people might have been alerted to the atrocities being perpetrated in their name and tried harder to stop them. When my grandchildren ask, "What did you do, Grandpa, to stop the torture," I want to be able to tell them that I tried to honor my oath, taken both as an Army officer and an intelligence officer, to defend the Constitution of the United States - and that I not only spoke out strongly against the torture, but also sought a symbolic way to dissociate myself from it.

We Americans have become accustomed to letting our institutions do our sinning for us. I abhor the corruption of the CIA in the past several years, believe it to be beyond repair, and do not want my name on any medallion associated with it. Please destroy this one.

Yours truly,
Ray McGovern

Due to the attack on the mosques, the Iraqi Army can no longer be regarded as securely under American control in my opinion. The Iraqi government which is really controlled by the interior ministry and not by the elected leadership is attacking the Sunni minority and the Iraqi troops under American control are sympathetic to this cause and will soon no doubt simply become troops under the control of the interior ministry. America is losing any control it had over events in Iraq.

CHICAGO -- Lura Lynn Ryan, the wife of former Gov. George Ryan, said on Wednesday that her husband is being prosecuted because of his stance against the death penalty.
"This is something that the powers that be are for, and we really think that's why this indictment came down," she said. "It's as simple as that."

This is the first time this has ever been mentioned anywhere to my knowledge outside of the diary I wrote last summer.

http://bushplanet.blogspot.com/2005/09/more-fixgerald.html

If there ever was any real danger of terrorism the government and business interests would not allow for these ports to be turned over to Arab business interests. There is no danger. It has been reviewed by the Committee on Foreign Investments in the United States. Terrorism fears are only convenient for manipulating the American Puppet People into a state of fear for the purpose of gaining their support of Bush's foreign policies. When it comes to Bush business, fear of terrorism is something that gets in the way. This is a business transaction.

This is News that should be "Breaking News". This is the kind of news we never see, not even on the Internet.

This is a really great lesson in world politics and how it works from a eyewitness. It's really fascinating to me. http://www.democracynow.org/

Take a look at the British Ambassador to Uzbekistan who was fired for refusing to resign when he tried to expose British and American complicity in the torture of terrorist suspects by Uzbekistan. These terrorist suspects are the people that Larry Johnson says should not be tortured but only...um...mildly sleep deprived. Apparently incarceration without legal recourse and sleep deprivation are not torture in many American peoples thinking. Such comments about benign captivity and restraint go with little protest, even on this site.  Sleep deprivation is torture. It doesn't matter whether it is mild or not.  Does anyone deny that? Come forward!

The Ambassador was asked to resign by his government....if he refused he was told he would be accused  of trading passports for sex and money. He refused to resign and after a year he was fired for leaking memos about the horrors of the Uzbekistan torture centers and the use of them by the U.S. and British. He claims the government leaked the papers in order to fire him. This is how convoluted governments become and why there are few whistleblowers.

Much of Europe is now fully complicit with the United States in the torture and invasion of  Iraq and the it's people. The European complaints of the invasion appears to have been strictly public, while in private much of Europe participated and assisted the United States in the invasion and in the torture.

So many tortured. For nothing. All this torturing and none of the information leads to Bin Laden.

Why?

Britain Germany the United States and possibly France are preparing for war against Iran. They are covering up their participation in torture and focusing on those whistleblowers who expose them. Europe is moving to the right.

The Attack on Pakistan should put an end to the speculation. It's part of the softening up campaign for an air war in Iran. There has been no outcry from any Democrat over the attack on a supposed ally in the imagined War on Terrorism.

Initial Reports of the bombing of the Interior Ministry said that the explosions were caused by car bombs. This from the Chicago Tribune.

There were conflicting reports of the details. Police officials said shortly after the attack that the explosions were caused by two car bombs.

As we hear about the bombing of the Interior Ministry we may wonder why initial reports of a car bomb being the cause, later morphed once again into "Suicide Bombers". There were reportedly 9 checkpoints that had to be gone through in order to enter the area of the Interior Ministry. One possible explanation is that the bombs were set off by American Forces and made to look as though they were set off by infiltrating suicide bombers.  American forces can presumably enter at will.

Why would Americans Blow up the Interior Ministry?

Sometimes when an individual or a nation goes mad, they go mad slowly, not noticing the gradual change. What once seemed abnormal and strange now becomes acceptably commonplace.

One Nation under Sedation

Just recently, the news that the Ambassador to London, former Hollywood Mercedes Benz car dealer Robert Tuttle apparently has lied about... of all things...that the United States is kidnapping people and taking them to be tortured... to ...uh.....guess where? ...Syria. A nation the United States is actually fighting a low-level border war with. A nation it has threatened with military action. A nation who the United States says is in need of regime change.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1673958,00.html?gusrc=rss

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/10/30/wsyria30.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/1


0/30/ixworld.html

The Intelligence Community and the Armed Forces Attempt a Revolt with Bush

Some of the people who are witnessing, from the bow of the ship of state where and what the ship is going through are screaming to turn the ship around.

Today Democracy Now! Interviewed a former NSA intelligence agent, Russell Tice who was fired for reporting that FBI agents appeared to be engaging in illegal activities and were incompetent.

Sometimes when an individual or a nation goes mad, they go mad slowly, not noticing the gradual change. What once seemed abnormal and strange now becomes acceptably commonplace.

One Nation under Sedation

Just recently, the news that the Ambassador to London, former Hollywood Mercedes Benz car dealer Robert Tuttle apparently has lied about... of all things...that the United States is kidnapping people and taking them to be tortured... to ...uh.....guess where? ...Syria. A nation the United States is actually fighting a low-level border war with. A nation it has threatened with military action. A nation who the United States says is in need of regime change.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1673958,00.html?gusrc=rss

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/10/30/wsyria30.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/1
0/30/ixworld.html

Now that the U.S. has engineered an Iranian take over of large portions of Iraq, the policy analysts, experts, and critical thinking members of the administration will probably come to the following conclusion:

Attack Iran by Air.

While we are at it...attack Syria by air.

http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=89141

In this way, Iranian influence over Iraq can be weakened. Rather than directly supporting the insurgents who the U.S. is now fighting, it will probably be more prudent politically to attack Iran directly. This temporarily avoids the embarrassing yet inevitable switching of sides in Iraq that the U.S. must do according to its philosophy of protecting America and American interests. Now that Iraq has "voted" into office a fundamentalist government, the U.S media can only report it, and the administration can only see it as a supporter of terrorism and as an Islamic State. Iraq  can only be weakened  and controlled by partially destroying its source of strength-Iran. Chaos must be brought to Iran in order to distract it from its activities in Iraq. Operation Chaos seems to be what Israel has ordered its client state...U.S.A. to enact.