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Clinton's Derangement Syndrome | 26 comments (26 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: Clinton's Derangement Syndrome (none / 1)

Miracles are for Angels and Hillary is no angel.

Obama has 1904.5 delegates to Hillary's 1718.5. meaning after the Edwards endorsement 8 of his pledged delegates moved to Obama.

Obama now needs only 17 pledged delegates for a majority with a total 120.5 delegates to clinch the nomination.

It's over. Insurmountable. May 20 is the party.

Hillary is staying in because it gives her grand-standing rights at the Convention. Selfish.

Good she's being ignored.

We'll see the outcome of the Rules and By-Laws Committee meeting on May 31,

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 08:46:58 PM EST
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OK (none / 0)

Just don't assume that unlikely equals impossible. There's that thing called hubris. Even with the odds so against her at this point her tenacity and wiliness should not be underestimated.

On the one hand you don't want to give her credibility by pushing back too hard, but on the other hand no one should be ignoring the fact that she's still fighting on, making her pitch to the SDs and building her pv totals, with some big wins yet to be racked up. Her arguments may be specious, but she's still making them, and she shouldn't be counted out until she's really out. There's been a bit too much Obama-oriented triumphalism lately for my taste. I think it's premature and frankly a bit dangerous if everyone just moves on to the GE fight and forgets the one that isn't finished yet.

by Alien Abductee on Fri May 16th, 2008 at 09:26:55 PM EST
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Re: OK (none / 1)

Who's engaging in hubris? OK, people like us are, but you know what? It's safe for us to do so because nobody listens to people like us. I can sit here and proclaim that the race is over, Obama won, the whole nine yards, and it won't make a bit of difference either way. Tim Russert can say the race is over, and OK, more people listen to him, but that still isn't all that important.

What's important is that I'll bet you anything you care to bet that Barack Obama is still working hard for votes, courting superdelegates, working the bylaws and credentials committees, and taking nothing for granted. Yes, his tone has shifted to where he's running against John McCain now. He can do that because it would take a complete overturning of the results of the primaries for Clinton to be declared the nominee, and if that happens frankly the Democrats' nominee would be the least of their worries. And he can do that precisely because he is working so hard to wrap this thing up even tighter than it is.

Unable/Unstable '08

by Omir the Storyteller (omir.the.storyteller -CAT- gmail -DOG- com) on Sat May 17th, 2008 at 01:44:29 AM EST
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Re: OK (none / 1)

If you thought what you had to say had no effect on anyone or anything why would you bother? The effects may be minimal, commenters being the lowest form of blog life, but the effects are something, and they're unpredictable. The campaigns wouldn't be bothering with bloggers if they thought they had no effect.

CW is shaped by simple repetition. The CW narrative of who's winning and who can win in November is the battleground now. It's what the decision of the SDs will hinge on to decide the race, nothing more substantial, and the Clinton campaign is still busy shaping it even while we scoff at their math. All I'm saying is don't get too complacent that it's over, there may be some surprises ahead.

by Alien Abductee on Sat May 17th, 2008 at 03:05:36 AM EST
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Re: OK (none / 1)

If you thought what you had to say had no effect on anyone or anything why would you bother?

Because every so often, I turn out to be wrong in that opinion.

Unable/Unstable '08

by Omir the Storyteller (omir.the.storyteller -CAT- gmail -DOG- com) on Sat May 17th, 2008 at 02:35:40 PM EST
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Re: OK; So what's for dinner? (none / 0)

HRC's campaign is dead as the barn mouse cornered by two barn cats out back.

Hillary already gave her concession speech. Did you miss it? Now it's called the looooooong farewell.

A Subdued Clinton, and a Subdued Audience
With her candidacy running out of time -- and perhaps air -- the Clinton campaign has taken on a distinctly subdued mood.
Mrs. Clinton found herself largely ignored on Friday while a battle raged between Senator Barack Obama on one hand and Senator John McCain and President Bush on the other.
[.]Late Friday, Mrs. Clinton stopped by her campaign office in Salem, Ore., to thank a group of excited volunteers, shaking hands and eating cannoli.
"I don't really get the point of her carrying on," said Tim Ledford, 29, a store clerk who had wandered upstairs to catch a glimpse of Mrs. Clinton. "If it's done, it's done."

Well, "You can't vote for war and disown the results"

by idredit on Sun May 18th, 2008 at 01:30:39 PM EST
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Clinton's Derangement Syndrome | 26 comments (26 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

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